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Half banana
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Half banana
I answer yes... for the superstitious, everything which happens is a fulfillment of Bible prophecy.
I prophecy that when the majority of JWs can joke about their leaders (galgen humour or openly) all will know that it is the "last days" for the organisation. Let those who are in Walkill, Warwick and Patterson take to the hills.
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Interperatation of Revelation 13 due for an update?
by pale.emperor inregarding the watchtower interpretation of revelation 13 https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201105/seventh-world-power-bible-history/ - identifying the usa and britain as part of the legs of iron from daniels vision... i think they're gonna have to update this one in the next decade.. trump seems to be the last person who'd work closely with a female prime minister for one, secondly, us brits aint so powerful as we once was.
trump appears to be pretty ok with dealing with russia and for all we know could become an ally with them.. your thoughts?.
now that i read the watchtower interpretation of revelation without my jw spectacles on, it's laughable that they come to these conclusions..
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Half banana
The Guardians Of the Doctrines aka the Watchtower GB are up a creek without a paddle with this and any other Bible interpretation. They have never got any prediction right. Their immortal truths hardly last a generation, sometimes it is only a handful of years before their teaching is seen to be transparently flawed.
They have no credibility...so what is the point of ever listening to anything the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses says?
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666 or 616? Do we have to choose a number or could it be both?
by fulltimestudent ini'm sure that most longer term readers on this list know that the use of the number in the revelation was a 'code' using the jewish concept that assigned number values to the letters of the hebrew alphabet.. a promoter of modern judaism ( dr. eliyahu lizorkin-eyzeneberg) explains:.
today gematria is well-known as a jewish interpretive method that assigns numerical values of hebrew letters to words, phrases and/or sentences.
then, by adding them together, seeks to determine their deeper meaning.
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Half banana
FTS, the subject of gematria is important in understanding how irrational certain religious believers think. It is very well regarded in some circles as I am aware from my Jewish clients.
The fact is that in many languages alphabetic characters double up as numerals. Since the relationships are entirely arbitrary, apart from by chance, they can be no connection of the numerical value of words containing numbers to the meaning of those words.
This is the rational approach but most religious people are by definition superstitious and therefore having already granted the Bible to be sacred are not content with that, they must see something further in their holy writings.
With this superstition in mind, I meant to post earlier on the Hebrew word for "thou" and "thee" which is "antah" (pron. an-taw). I think it contains an important JW hidden 'truth'.
The use of thou" as a pronoun in the singular, is now almost dead in English speech (except in parts of Yorkshire where it is usually pronounced "tha." When my uncle was young, he rather too politely asked someone for the lavatory in Wakefield and was met with the reply "Dost tha mean shit-house lad?") but I digress.
However in the Bible the word you in the singular, "antah" is used conspicuously in the very late book of Daniel written only one and a half centuries before the Common Era.
The book of Daniel is irresistible for those trying to divine hidden meanings regarding "the time of the end". If you were into esoteric meanings and masonry in the nineteenth century, like Russell was, it is likely you would be confronted by the forceful use of the word "antah" in chapter 2 to 6 of Daniel, where it is found twelve times with repetition for emphasis.
The word "thou" in Hebrew also signifies 607.
What thinkest thou? I'm certain that Fred Franz and his Jewish associates would have been convinced.
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Hi forum
by A Believer ini proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.
i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.
i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.
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Half banana
Hi Believer, welcome! I hope you count your field service time here.
Just one question: If Jehovah's Witnesses are the only religion inspired and authorised by God, why is it that in the one hundred and thirty seven years of Watchtower information, that they have never once got any of their many date predictions come true?
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If you read the bible w/out instruction, what would you think?
by TTWSYF inanyone reading [or did read] the bible without someone else telling you what it meant?.
would you be leaning towards the jws or baptists or lutherans or what?.
just asking.
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Half banana
And 19th century nonsense was based on fourth century Roman nonsense which in turn was drawn from first century anti Gnosticism developed from Greek thinking and Jewish monotheism and messianic triumphalism nonsense and before that pure pagan son of Sun God saviour nonsense characters who like Jesus, all went to heaven at the spring equinox.
The key is to realize that we are not dealing with fact but time honoured myth instead.
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If you read the bible w/out instruction, what would you think?
by TTWSYF inanyone reading [or did read] the bible without someone else telling you what it meant?.
would you be leaning towards the jws or baptists or lutherans or what?.
just asking.
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Half banana
Why do you need someone else to tell what your reading material means?
The Bible is a mish mash of stories all of them borrowed from earlier sources, it is a depressing read and edited by those who would want a pathetic tribe of desert goat herders to rank alongside the power of Egypt.
A much more refined read is the considerably older moral literature from ancient Egypt, the style of which much of the OT is modeled on. Have a look at The Tale of Sinuhe and other Ancient Egyptian poems 1949-1640 BC, translated by RB Parkinson, Oxford University Press 1997, reissued 2007
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RANT: Isn't Cognitive Dissonance Amazing?
by Sorry inthis is piggybacking off my previous post (about my 'personal study').
while i haven't been a long time member, i'm sure if you have my posts you'll know that i'm disenchanted with the wt and am just grunting and bearing until i have a stable enough support system to break away.
however, lately i'm just getting extremely angry at nearly everything that's going on.
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Half banana
Vent away Sorry! You need to when your life has been scuppered by the JW cult.
In the long term, being honest with yourself and striding out into the world of humanity is not as bad as JWs believe. You do however need courage and determination but it's worth it.
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Proverbs 4:18 "light gets brighter"
by stuckinarut2 inwe are all familiar with the classic use by the society of proverbs 4:18 about "light getting brighter".
they say it applies to revealed truth, and doctrinal changes etc.. have you ever just read that chapter (and even the surrounding chapters) in full??.
it has nothing to do with doctrinal changes or teachings.. it has to do with acquiring wisdom and life skills in order to live a successful life.
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Half banana
The JW culture involves uttering little Bible or Watchtower sound bites to each other to make sure they are still in the faith. The original meaning of these sayings is irrelevant as they are made only with reference to the myth which the org has attributed to them.
If spiritual light really was always getting brighter, it would have become incandescent by now! Instead the GB are still madly searching for doctrines which last more than a handful of years and their fundamental beliefs like 1914 are clearly based on wrong assumptions and wrong historical dates.
Wakey wakey Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Is there Scriptural Evidence to a Resurrection during the 1,000 year Reign?
by Listener inthis question was addressed on the jw advisor blog (a defending watchtower website), july 24,2016 .
the answer is interesting because it is more in accord with what the bible fortells but it is not in accord with what the watchtower is currently teaching and has been for decades.
it has been suggested on this forum that the site has been sanctioned by the watchtower or written by writers at hq.this is the current view of the watchtower and is under 'bible teachings' on jw org.
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Half banana
From a rational point of view any talk of resurrection is a childish fantasy...and yet to a Bible believer this absurdity is swallowed hook line and sinker.
In all the years of belief in "saviours" including Jesus, how many people have ever been resurrected?